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Pathway for Pain’s Purpose

“I just want to feel better.”

“Everything hurts too much.”

“This suffering is making me depressed.”

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Would you agree with any of these statements? Have you ever felt this way? Generally in our culture people would rather avoid pain for the sake of pleasure any day of their life and for any situation in which you find yourself.

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“You can endure a lot of suffering
when your heart is set on a purpose –
but if your heart is set on comfort,
you can’t endure any suffering at all.” G. Wilkerson

So, in the prep room for my recent lumbar discectomy surgery this week, my doctor greets my wife and me with a “religious question”.

“Here’s one for you, preacher,” he says.

“If a loving God didn’t want people to suffer so much in this world, why did he create suffering?”

Now, I’ve learned to observe body language and delivery in rather smug rhetorical questions like these, so I’m paying attention. Besides the nurse is administering the IV at this point and I’ve had nothing to eat or drink since midnight and no pain meds yet, so I’m a little edgy to say the least. The question was really meant to distract me from the IV needle procedure as it rolled off doctor “slick’s” tongue so eloquently. It was very well played for the timing of a significant timely back surgery and 4-week anticipated recovery.

He continued, “I mean, all people want today is comfort, but they don’t want maturity. That only comes through suffering.”

I fired away, “All we have to ask, if we’re not supposed to suffer is, why did Jesus suffer so much, and he himself is God.”

Quick as that, IV is in, saline drip started, rolling of the gurney, kisses to my wife, down the hallway and into procedure room. Lights, camera, action.

Seconds later I’m in recovery trying to open my eyes to the shouts in the room and the cold blankets and overhead fluorescents. Mr Olson, you did just fine. Everything went according to plan. They took a bone spur to alleviate the sciatic and your going to be good as new. No more suffering, no more pain. Mr Olson?! Wake up now.

Bells and whistles, IV drip tubes and finger-pulse clip, ice chips and ice packs, heating blankets and wraps to avoid blood clotting. This is going to be fun.

So doctor “slice & dice” got me thinking. Did God create suffering? Is this all His doing? Does God want us in pain? Does He enjoy that process in our lives? Wouldn’t this entire existence have been easier if we didn’t have suffering in the first place, like in the garden back at creation?

Yeah. That’s it. God didn’t create suffering, he created free will and gave mankind the choice to obey or the choice of … death, sin and distance from Him. Suffering is part of that, so God did create suffering (technically) but it wasn’t designed for us originally. Adam blew it by indulging rather than obeying God. This gets deep because one might say, “Oh, so if I obey God my suffering goes away”? Not exactly.

Because of “the fall’s curse” we endure suffering. It’s part of our world, unavoidable but useful now in the hands of God for His good work in shaping us to be like Jesus.

Maybe these beeps and noises in the recovery room are messing with me, or the meds are taking effect but again, it occurs to me, God didn’t create suffering for us, we chose it. God now uses it to draw us back to Him on a pathway if pain. It’s like the only way to relationship with God is on pain’s pathway. Look at Jesus, who endured the pain of the cross to make the only possible pathway back to relationship with God. Suffering is a tool for God’s use in drawing us to himself. Now, if our entire culture rejects pain and suffering at all cost, is culture essentially rejecting God?

Why do bad things happen to good people? I don’t like that question really because we play the judge in that question and place value on good or bad things happening. It’s an opinion of good or bad. Same with people. We assign good or bad to a person based on what? Exterior behavior. If a person does good, they are good and vise-versa. Who are we to judge? But it’s a cliche so let’s roll with it.

Here’s my point, people don’t want pain or suffering. It’s natural. I mean look at all the self care habits and dollars spent in a year. Billions are spent on pharmaceuticals to avoid or manage pain. (I should have picked that career path, sheesh.) Doctor “nip & tuck” told me, “hey preacher, you know why your kind and mine will always be employed?” No, why? “Because there will always be sin in this world, and there will always be pain. Job security.”

Not bad thinking for a spine guy.

Let’s not ramble too far. Why is there pain & suffering? God gave us a choice to seek him His way, through obedience, or to be chased and sought by him (since the fall) through pain’s pathway of suffering. God doesn’t want us to suffer for anything, although he uses this pathway to get our attention and grow us closer to being like Jesus. He let Jesus take in the worst suffering of human kind. Tortured to death. Mocked by thousands. Rejected, betrayed, denied, forsaken. Why? So a pathway would be paid with pain to take our real suffering away. Not physical suffering, this is just temporary. No Jesus’s pain takes the place of our real suffering and loss away, that separation from God is now mended in Jesus.

Sounds like God is a masochist. Sounds like someone had to pay for this to make it right. Like that time you threw a rock through the window and dad said, “Someone’s gotta buy a new one, and I didn’t throw that rock.” Maybe that was just my experience.

I don’t think God is like that. I don’t think He’s a “pay up” or get out kinda God.
Too much love.

I think Jesus is the “new Adam” in Hebrew Adam’s name means dirt. Jesus is the new dirt, the new creation. The new way for God’s pathway to be made right. When Jesus didn’t sin, ever, it was God’s way of saying people can live the life I created. People brought sin into the world, but God uses that suffering and pain as a way to form us into his likeness, like Jesus.

So, doctor “fix it”, when you ask “If God didn’t want is to suffer so much, why did He create it?” There’s my thought. He didn’t create it for us, but He gently uses suffering in us as a pathway to Jesus and restoration with God. Out of love, not payback. For our maturity, not masochism.

I don’t want pain either, as much as the next guy. But I do want to be drawn closer to God, so I’m at a crossroads. “God, this hurts and I don’t like it, but if it means you’re drawing me closer to you and we walk hand in hand, do whatever you want. Didn’t someone say, “Take this cup of suffering & death from me, YET, not what I will, rather Father, what you will”? Oh yeah God, you said that in Jesus.

Make me like that guy, just remember to be a little gentle. Pain still hurts.

 
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Posted by on April 26, 2013 in Leadership

 

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Suffering & Hope

ImageIt’s an age-old question – “Why do bad things happen to good people?”

As you know from the headlines… suffering is real in our world.

–      Boston Marathon bombing

–      Poisonous letters sent to the President

–      N. Korea nuclear threats

–      Stabbings on college campuses

–      Fertilizer explosion in West, TX…        

This hits home as some of us know runners who were involved in the Boston, and my niece attends Baylor University, in Waco TX, about 20 miles south of the explosion in West, TX. The university is donating blood and clothing to victims this week.

–      How many people have to suffer?

Many people have asked me, “Why do these bad things happen to people?”

How would you respond?

Where is the hope today?

Why is our “fear” increasing?

Where is God in all this trouble?

How does one respond to these events if there is no god, or if they don’t have hope to hang onto?

Hudson Taylor (Missionary to China, 1900) said, “You can trust the LORD too little, but you can never trust Him too much.”

Man’s steps are ordained by the LORD, how then can man understand his way? Proverbs 20:24

Stop and think for a moment about the word sovereignty. There’s a small word nestled in the heart of it, the word reign: sov-reign-ty. 

Sovereignty means our all-wise, all-knowing God reigns in realms beyond our comprehension to bring about a plan beyond our ability to alter, hinder, or stop. 

Let me go further. His plan includes all promotions and demotions. His plan can mean both adversity & prosperity, tragedy & calamity, ecstasy & joy. 

His plan is at work when we cannot imagine why it seems so unpleasant, as much as when the reason is clear and pleasant. His sovereignty, though it is mysterious, has dominion over all issues, all heartaches, all helpless moments. 

Even when we cannot explain the reasons, God understands the situation. 

And when we cannot see the end, God is already there… at the end, nodding, “Yes, that is My plan.” 

Let’s look to the bible, in the book of Mark, to see how Jesus relates to our suffering…

Previously, Jesus experienced the Lord’s Supper with his followers and warned them not to fall away.

Now we move into the Garden of Gethsemane scene, where Jesus prays to have the situation change, the disciples with Jesus fall asleep (not once, but 3 times) and Judas comes to betray Jesus with a kiss of affection. 

I’ve often wondered why this author Mark, has such a gloomy description of Jesus’ arrest. Don’t most Americans believe in the “meek & mild”, warm & fuzzy Jesus, who loves children and wouldn’t hurt a flea?  Sadly, yes.

Here at Crossroads, we like to be real about who Jesus is, what our needs are and how Jesus relates to our real-lives.

3 words in this passage of the bible in Mark, stick out to me as Jesus relates to our suffering:

  1. “Abba” (Mark 14:36) – Jesus talks to God like a boy talks to daddy

As Jesus prays in Gethsemane, we are granted one of the most moving insights into the intimacy of His relationship with the one who sent Him. All three other gospels record that in His darkest hour, Jesus addressed His prayers to the “Father.”

         However, Mark’s Gospel reveals that Jesus used the same word to address His Father as the child crying on the playground, the intimate Aramaic word, “Abba”. Mark uses the original language, moving away from Greek for the moment, to drive home the point about Jesus’ intimacy with God.

         This is the only time in the entire Bible where Jesus addresses Yahweh as “Abba”, and he is doing it at the time of His gravest vulnerability. It might have been the very first word on Jesus lips as a child – the first word spoken by the incarnate God – and now it would also be one of Jesus’ last words, “Abba”. 

         When life hurts, like we’ve seen this past week, it becomes more important than ever to cry out to God like that child on the swing, remembering that He is first and foremost, Abba, Father.

         If the word “father” is full of positive human associations in your life, then by all means bundle them together, double their meaning, and apply them to the Creator God… “daddy”.

         But if, on the other hand, you had no dad, or he is absent, abusive or cold, then you, perhaps like Jesus who had no biological human father, can reserve for God alone the wonderful name “Abba”, Father. 

2. “Take this cup from me” (Mark 14:36) – Jesus begs for another option 

What kind of prayers do you pray? How “real” do you get with God?

Are your prayers just nursery rhyme – comfort sayings? Or do you let God know your real needs? 

The depth of our prayers directly correlate to how much we trust God to “take it” from us. Do you hold back, or do you think God can really handle it?

In the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus was utterly honest about His fear. He knew that His mission was to “suffer many things” (Luke 9:22), but he still asked God to take the cup of suffering away from Him. This is not the kind of thing that messiahs are supposed to pray. In fact, it’s a prayer that runs counter to God’s revealed purposes. But in this heart-rending request, we are assured that it’s okay to grieve, to cry, to plead with God and to wonder why.

         In fact, it’s more than okay – it’s affirmed as something that expresses His heart. God accepts our honesty. But as we’ve seen, when life gets tough it’s easy to forget who God is. It’s even easier to pretend to be something or someone we’re not.

 God doesn’t like pretending – God allows pain & suffering for some reason. Maybe we’ll never know why He allows such suffering and pain, but we can know for sure, that God doesn’t like when we pretend that “everything is okay” when it’s not. He doesn’t like to play church, play at marriage, play at prayer, play at the “doll-house” life. We know this b/c Jesus didn’t pretend that he was “John Wayne” in the Garden of Gethsemane and just “take it on the chin.” No – Jesus cried out at the top of his lungs, with bloodstained sweat, “TAKE THIS CUP FROM ME.”…

What is your cry?

It’s important to be real with God. Look at Peter: He sleeps when Jesus needs him most, he cuts off a guy’s ear, he gets scared and denies being a disciple, he’s nowhere to be seen at the crucifixion, and he doesn’t believe the women when they say they’ve seen the risen Lord.

         This is the great apostle of the Christian Church; Peter, depicted in a thousand stained-glass windows; Peter, author of entire chunks of the Bible; Peter, who walked on water and first called Jesus the Son of God; Peter, from whom the Roman Catholic Church proudly traces the papal succession. In telling Mark these stories for inclusion in his Gospel, Peter refuses to play the superhero and made it okay for you and me to handle our Gethsemane poorly too. He permits us to struggle and fail and get it wrong, over and over again.

Get real with God, it’s not going to hurt you.

3. “Yet, not what I will, but your will” (Mark 14:36) – Jesus gives into love

 To choose God’s will over one’s own personal preferences, is, according to scripture, the defining of human opportunity. The first Adam, way back in the original garden, passively gave into his own will, over the will of God the father. Down through the course of history, we have each sown and reaped the consequences of that first poor decision, ages ago.

         Now in the Garden of Gethsemane we find the NEW ADAM, Jesus, make another choice that will reverse the one made at the dawn of human history. Every human instinct of survival cries out against what Jesus knows He must do; every rational argument insists on self-preservation

Have you ever been there?

And subtler voices, too; the promise that a single submission of His will, Jesus would become a sin offering, and even more terrifying prospect – separation from God Himself. No wonder Jesus cries, “Father, take this cup from me.” I’m sure there were tears in the Father’s eyes as well.

“Yet”… that single word from Jesus halted the work of evil for a moment. The Father is listening, “Yet, not my will” says Jesus, “but your will be done.”

The way to subvert the power of evil and darkness in this fear-torn world, the way to re-assemble the bomb’s blast in Boston, the death in TX, the fear of more gunshots in schools… is for us as believers in Jesus’ Christ, one by one, to submit our will to the Father and say, “yet, not my will, but your will be done.”

Why do bad things happen to good people?  We may never know for sure.

But one thing I know, we are called as Christ-followers, to bring hope to the pain, joy to the sorrow, love to the broken and healing for the hurting by submitting our will to God’s will… “Not what I want, God, but what you want.”

Closing:

There is hope in the world because of what Jesus went through, because of his suffering, because of Jesus’ trials. If Jesus didn’t go through the garden, the denial, the betrayal, the arrest, the “rigged” trial with the religious leaders… if none of this would have happened the way it did, God would not identify with our suffering, loss, sudden attacks of pain.

Listen to this story of hope…

Boston Marathon: “Medals for everyone who ran that day”.

Touched by the spontaneous generosity of a stranger in the aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombings., a 25-year-old runner from Cambridge, Mass., turned to Facebook to find her Good Samaritan.

The marathon rules insist only race finishers may collect a race medal, and Laura Wellington was half a mile from the finish line when the two bombs went off Monday and the race was abruptly halted.

A passing stranger — a marathon participant himself, as it turned out — saw her sitting on the curb in tears and gave her his medal.

On Tuesday, curious to know who the kindly man was, Wellington put her story of Facebook. “I was so in need of a familiar face at that point in time,” she wrote, adding she had “slim” hope of finding him. “This couple reassured me that even though such a terrible thing had happened, everything was going to be OK.”

Her Facebook posting quickly went viral (nearly a quarter of a million “likes” by Wednesday evening) and a few hours later she had a name: Brent Cunningham.

Cunningham, 46, a native of faraway Sitka, Alaska, population 9,000, had just arrived in Anchorage for a business meeting late Tuesday when he learned Wellington was looking for him. By Wednesday, they had contacted each other on Facebook but had not yet had a chance to talk by phone.

“This is the craziest story,” he told the Star by telephone. “I never thought we’d connect again. Why would we? How would we?”

Cunningham was running in the Boston Marathon on Monday and had crossed the finish line about half an hour before the deadly explosions. He got his medal and was making his way back to their hotel with his wife Karin and their 17-year-old daughter Megan when they came across a young woman sobbing. She had a race number but no medal.

The woman — they never learned her name — told them she panicked when she heard of the explosions, knowing her family was at the finish line waiting for her. But she had only now made contact with them and learned they were safe. She was so overjoyed she sat down and dissolved into tears.

It was cold and windy, and Karin placed a blanket around Wellington for comfort. Cunningham asked if she had finished the race. She said no.

“Then I just knew what I had to do,” he said.

Cunningham took off his medal and slipped it around her neck. Wellington burst into tears, as did his wife.

“I just wanted to let her know she was amazing. I said, ‘You’re a finisher in my eyes.’ That was that,” Cunningham said. “She was so emotional she couldn’t talk. And I’ve been emotional about it at least five times since then.”

Cunningham, regional director of Alaska Young Life, a Christian outreach ministry for teens, said this was his first Boston Marathon and possibly his last chance for the coveted medal.

He had dreamed for years of running the race, and it took him about two years to qualify. Even then, he qualified by only 90 seconds. However, his time on Monday of three hours, 41 minutes was too slow to qualify for a spot in next year’s race.

He said he hopes to qualify again “some day” but has no regrets about giving Wellington his medal.

“She needed it more than I needed it. I just wanted her to know that ‘you’re worth it.’ With everything that has happened, our world is looking for hope. My whole life is about loving God and loving others. That’s who I am.”

She has not offered to give the medal back, and he said that in any case he wouldn’t accept it.

Carol Hughey, an office administrator for Sikta Young Life who has worked with Cunningham for 12 years, said she is not surprised by his gesture.

“He’s just a sweetheart,” Hughey said. “He is a man who would literally give you the shirt off his back”.

 
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Posted by on April 22, 2013 in Leadership

 

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End o’ The Year Evals

I don’t know many people who prefer to evaluate their past year. Most who I talk with prefer to “forget the past” and just keep their eyes on what’s ahead. end-of-year

I resonate with that thought, for sure… but at the end of the year, it’s good to evaluate just a little.

Deuteronomy 8:2 says, “Remember how the LORD your God led you all the way in the wilderness these forty years, to humble and test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands.”

This was written about the people of God in the Old Testament, but let’s break this into pieces for us:

Remember… One the most powerful words in the Old Testament of the Bible is “remember”. Why? Because we so easily forget. We move forward so quickly, so often, moving to the next thing in life w/o evaluating our learning experiences. God calls us to remember, so that our current situation might be more full of life and meaning.

… how the Lord your God led you all the way… Wait! The Lord continues to lead us, not just a little ways, but “all the way”. We can’t help but think of Romans 8:38-39, where nothing can separate us from the love of God. So, God leads us through everything, good & bad, for His good. We don’t see that bad things can lead us to God’s good for us, but it’s true, and leads us to the next idea…

… in the wilderness… God leads us through the wilderness of life, but remains with us in the valley. Like Psalms 23 where the Lord leads the Psalmist through the valley of the shadow of death, thank God that He doesn’t leave us there, but leads us through it. How could something so painful in my life turn out to be anything good for me? God only knows how these kinds of things work out because he sees it all and understands the outcome.

Why did God take them through the wilderness? … to humble and test them, in order to know what was in their heart… Let’s be honest, doesn’t that sound mean of God to humble us and test us? It only sounds mean from our perspective, but not from God’s. He wants to evaluate what is in our heart. He has every right to want to know how committed we are to following Him and to know how much we are in love with Him.

If you’re a parent, don’t you desire to know what your kids are thinking, or feeling? Doesn’t it warm your heart to know they love you? Some of the hardest times of parenting are when your kid is apathetic or lethargic. So, wouldn’t it be God’s desire to know what’s in the heart of the people who call Him Father?

… to know whether or not you would keep his commands… ouch!!! I don’t think there’s much to say about this portion. Not one of us has kept the commands of God this year, though we so desire it in our heart. God’s infinite wisdom comes into play here where His own Son was the sacrifice for our sin in this regard. Since no one can keep the commands of God, Jesus is the only way to establish perfect relationship with God the Father again.

Do you have a relationship with Jesus? Not just believe in him, even the demons believe in Jesus… but do you know him personally?

I don’t know how you evaluate your 2012, but I know this, God the Father loves you with an inescapable love, and your 2013 depends on knowing Jesus.

Whether or not you like to evaluate your past, there’s something to evaluate at the end of this year, with just a few hours left of it.

Ask yourself these questions:
– Did I think to remember God leading me through the wilderness(es) of my year?
– Did I trust that God was leading me for His good purposes?
– Could the events in my past 12 months do anything to lead me closer to God?
– Am I going to honor God with the possible “wilderness” events that are coming in 2013?
– How can I remember God in all the ways He leads me from now on through the coming year?

Happy, or not so “happy” New Year?

May we always remember how God leads us for His good, to know what’s in our heart and draw us closer to Him.

 
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Posted by on December 31, 2012 in Leadership, Transition

 

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The Burning Bush Meets Real Life

I like reading the Old Testament of the Bible. It’s interesting to pictures some of the events from today’s perspective looking back into history. In reading it, we find that the God of history interacts the same with us today.

I read Exodus 2 & 3 about the beginning of Moses’ life and see the complexity of how God cares for his people and is concerned for their suffering. When we face suffering in life, chronic pain, long-term disability, injustice and oppression today, we can rely on the divine interaction of God who is concerned for us and takes joy in our healing, redemption and reconciliation from a sinful world.

Pastor Marty Gale from the Jewish Celebration Congregation in Loveland, Colorado helped reveal to me some further truth about the burning bush event in Exodus 3 recently.

When God came to meet with Moses from the midst of a burning bush, God is concerned for the suffering of His people. He draws Moses closer to Himself by igniting a bush without consuming it on Horeb, the mountain of God. Moses draws closer, but is told that the location is Holy ground and must keep his distance. Pastor Marty enlightened me by saying that the word “bush” is not in the Hebrew text, rather it’s the word sneh, which is thorn. English translations prefer the word bush because of the story it provides, but Acacia-wood thorn bush is the appropriate translation.

Thorns come from Genesis 3:18, where Adam must cary the curse of his sinful action into the rest of his days while harvesting the earth and tilling the ground. Thorns are a representation of sin, for they are introduced into creation as a result of sin. Thorns represent sin and sinful man.

God mentions in Genesis 6:3, that His Spirit will not contend with mankind forever, meaning that God is working out a plan to make His presence dwell with sinful man and combine the relationship as originally intended in creation. When God encounters Moses at the event of the burning “thorns”, His fire from heaven is from within the thorn bush, rather than consuming it. Fire from heaven is God’s present reality all throughout the Old Testament as representation of God’s presence. Elijah calls down fire from heaven a number of times as judgment from God on sinful humanity. The fire by night and pillar of cloud by day are representations of the Holy Spirit of God leading wandering Israelites through the wilderness as a guide. Fire is present in the Holy of Holies in the tabernacle to represent the presence of God. Even James and John the “sons of thunder” in Luke 9 ask Jesus if they should call down fire from heaven to consume the Samaritan town for not believing that Jesus is the Messiah. Jesus reassures them that the timing for such things was inappropriate.

How will the Holy fire of God ever come to dwell with the sinful thorn of humanity?

We read that the thorn of Acacia wood is woven to make a crown for Jesus to wear at his crucifixion. He dons the sin of man upon his brow where blood is mingled down upon his face. His willingness to take the sin of humanity upon himself at the cross is the mark of God’s presence dwelling with humanity forever.

In Acts 2, the culmination of the burning “bush” event takes place when, 7 weeks after Passover, at Pentecost, the Spirit of God like a violent rushing wind blows through the room where the disciples were gathered and what appeared to be ‘tongues of fire’ came to separate and rest on each one of them. The fire of God is present and dwelling with the thorn of mankind, but is not consuming them. The fulfillment of the burning bush in Exodus 3 takes place after the power of the resurrection of Jesus, and the church is born with power from God as divine presence and human thorny sin dwell together.

Finally, the Apostle Paul, who suffered a thorn in his flesh in years of ministry, writes words of God’s reconciliation to the church in Corinth about God’s burning mission for His new bride.

2 Corinthians 5:17-21, possibly my favorite collection of missional scripture, tells the church in Corinth, and correspondingly tells us as believers in Christ, that we are reconciled to God. Not by work that we have done, but by the ever generous grace of God who reconciles us to Himself through the blood of Jesus Christ, so that we might have the ministry of reconciliation. We who believe in a God who is concerned for our suffering, are to become reconcilers for those who feel hostile to God.

The old way of life, separation from God – distance from the divine due to our sinful thorn, is gone now. The new way of life has come. New life living is forever inaugurated in the blood, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, so that our thorny sinful lives might be filled with the divine fire presence of God from within and not consumed. God is not distant from us any longer. We have been drawn near to God to dwell with His divine nature in Christ through the Holy Spirit and become missionally reconciling to our neighbor.

Suffering is real. I read today in the Associated Press that “as many as 2.4 million people may be victims of human trafficking worldwide at any given time, calling it “a shameful crime of modern-day slavery.”. Suffering is chronic and crime is a trillion dollar business. It’s an example of the thorn of humanity taking aim at the claims of God and questioning His concern for relief of human suffering.

When reading the text of the Old Testament, the calling of God in the burning “thorn” bush to Moses and fulfilling it’s metaphor in Acts 2’s Pentecost presence of the Holy Spirit from within sinful humanity… we see that God dwells with his people once again, but doesn’t rely on the unstable vow of humanity, rather God relies on His Covenant Promise to Abraham in Genesis 12 that one day “all peoples on earth will be blessed through you [Abraham].”

We suffer & it is not fair. The thorn of sin is a curse we must endure, but thanks be to God who is concerned for our suffering, hears our cries and is quick to rescue, send the Redeemer in Christ Jesus and reconcile us to God. May we come to know that our reconciliation to God, His Holy Spirit fire dwells within us and does not consume us or destroy. He fills us so that, like a burning thorn bush, we become ministers of reconciliation.

 
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Posted by on April 23, 2012 in Sermons

 

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